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Thursday, May 24. 2007

LOST: "Through The Looking Glass" Comments [SPOILERS]

Dude!  I'm not even sure where to begin.  The implications, the humanity, the horror of it all!

I suggest reading the recap if you've not already, because I'm going to touch on a lot.  Starting with the three deaths we were warned about....

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Tom, aka. Zeke, aka. Mr. Friendly, R.I.P.

Well, I suppose this has to happen.  The Others' fate it seems are now decidedly intertwined with the fate of the survivors.  He's got no place in this.  He wasn't really developed as a character, and really didn't play into much, except to be the voice of Ben early on, and a lap dog later.  Can't say I'll miss him too much.

And what's with Sawyer taking him out in cold blood.  Well, lukewarm blood anyway. 

Naomi, R.I.P.

Throwaway character?  Yeah, probably so.  More plot device than anything, just to get that phone on the island and put us where we are now.  Won't really be missing her, either.  Although it would be nice to know where she got a copy of Desmond's photograph.  Considering there was only one, and Desmond has the original.

Charlie, R.I.P.

First
off, I'm actually kind of angry that they actually did it.  They
actually offed him.  I thought maybe, just maybe they weren't going to
after he came up out of that pool, that the space-time continuum had
changed beyond Desmond's perception and that Mr. Pace was going to be
all right.  I was wrong.

On the one hand, I suppose this kind of
thing happens all the time.  One minute you're here, the next you're
not, and normally, if you don't have a precognitive Scotsman around,
you don't know about it...  but really.  Did he have to die?  I wonder
what purpose it ultimately serves?  I hope there is one, beyond the
character development realm I mean.

Sure it makes sense if you
look at it this way.  Charlie had served his purpose, he went from the
irresponsible little git, to a pseudo-daddy, and a selfless hero
sacrificing himself for the greater good....  I suppose, I guess.  I'm
still wondering....

Onto the characters....

Alex and Rousseau

OK, that's out of the way.  Wonder if Danielle will change her mind about leaving now?  She apparently changed her mind about Alex...

Mikhail, the Invincible

So do you suppose he's really dead this time?  With more lives than your average feline, I bet we see him again.  A whole dollar.

I'm also convinced, more than ever that he's actually DHARMA, and not a "native."  He chose to side with the Others out of convenience and necessity, and now he sees a way to exact some revenge and continue with the greater task of the initiative.

Penny

Ah, sweet Penny, just another season finale fleeting glimpse.  She knows for a fact now that Desmond's alive, and on this "island" but she still doesn't know where.  And she didn't send the boat.

The Bad Guys(tm)

So who sent Naomi, and who's Minkowski? (If I heard that right.)

As an aside, Minkowski was a early 20th century physicist, who dealt with matters of spacetime physics.  A lot of Einstein's work in general relativity was based on Minkowksi's work, most notably as it pertains to spacetime curvature, and M's math.  A nice touch, and I wonder why they chose this name, here.

Are they DHARMA?  Are they Hanso?  Who's to say at this point.  Although I'm betting we come to know them next season as much as we know the Others now....

Sawyer

Ah, the man without a plan now.  Quick, give him an important mission in life, before he gives up!

Hurley

Attaboy Hurley!  I was thinking maybe after being insulted about his stature twice in the same day he'd go off and do something stupid, and there'd be an R.I.P. next to his name.  But no! He has to go and be the hero!  That was just plain awesome.

Now, the big ones....

Locke, and Walt

Did anyone else do a big "Holy ^$#%!!!" when they saw Walt standing over the pit?  Yeah, me too.  Of course you realize that it's not really Walt.  It's Jacob.  It's the island.  It's a manifestation of someone Locke held dear to him, because if you recall, Locke and Walt became quite good buddies there for a while....

What about his legs?  Well, I think that for the moment Locke gave up and was prepared to do himself in, Jacob "let him slip" if you will.  Then pulled him back at the last moment.  Sort of a "how serious is he" about blowing his brains out kind of thing.

Jack and Kate's Adventures in the Future!

Holy black smoke monster!  Did anyone really see that coming?  Yeah I noticed the Razr Jack was using, but I wrote it off as a continuity gaff at first.  Nooooo....

How apropos is it that Jack winds up after his rescue sort of as a mirror image of Charlie before the crash?  A strung out drug addict unable to keep himself afloat...  Maybe ironic is a better word.

Although, unlike Charlie (and like Locke, by the way) Jack has a mission.  To get back to the island?  But why?  What happened?  Did they leave somebody behind?  Does he just want to get back because of something he saw there?  Like his dad (or visions of) maybe?

Speaking of which, I don't believe that the elder Shepard is alive in this future.  I think that was just Jack spewing psycho babble in a drug and liquor induced haze, being back in the hospital, thinking he was still a doctor, and that he still worked there and all.... 

But who is the mysterious "He" that Kate spoke of?  And more importantly....

*WHO* was in that casket?!  With nobody but Jack, and possibly Kate to show up at the funeral.  Which was in a rather unpleasant part of town by the looks of it.  Why is Jack so upset about it that he was willing to jump off the bridge?

And thanks to Dakota for the "Anagram Alert" :)  The funeral home's name was "Hoffs Drawlar"... which, when shuffled, comes out to "Flash Forward."  Nice.

....

I was not disappointed (well except for the Charlie bit) with this one.  They've set themselves up for another mind blowing, and story right-angling season next year.

If only we can wait that bloody long!

(The whole "rattlesnake in the mailbox" makes perfect sense now, doesn't it...)





Posted by PlanetLOST in characters, episodes, opinions, reviews at 10:18 | Comments (26)
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#1 pDale on 2007-05-24 10:56 (Reply)
I'm convinced the body in the casket HAD to be Sawyer.
#2 pDale on 2007-05-24 11:03 (Reply)
In the official podcast Darlton said in effect "After the season finale, the 'Charlie in danger' story is OVER. Alive or dead, Charlie will stay that way." Personally, I'm hoping that Desmond's time-travelling will allow him to go back and tell Charlie (or himself) "Leave that switch alone!" and Charlie might then get to live. That would also solve whatever happened when our Losties got rescued. And I'm going to be VERY VERY upset if flight 815 was saved before the summer of 2006 because according to "web-game" THE LOST EXPERIENCE, their fate was still unknown at that point.
#3 jdb on 2007-05-24 11:20 (Reply)
Charlie's death was completely avoidable. He could have run out of the compartment and shut the door on the other side. Or just run out (it would take quite some time to fill up that large station with water) strap on a tank and get out, or just swim out like he swam in. It's almost like he deemed it necessary to fulfill Desmond's vision to ensure Clair gets rescued.
#4 MissingCharlie on 2007-05-24 11:25 (Reply)
I too am having a difficulty understanding the need for Charlie's demise. Why not just cut (or shoot, or blow up...) the cable to the Looking Glass?

As far as the casket...not so sure about having to be Sawyer...what about Michael? He irritated me so much I doubt he had any friends that would attend either:-) Plus the last thing he did was screw everyone over...and maybe Walt is back on the island and therefore unable to attend the service either.
#4.1 pDale on 2007-05-24 11:32 (Reply)
Why would Jack think that Kate would go to Michael's funeral?
#4.1.1 MissingCharlie on 2007-05-24 11:50 (Reply)
Maybe not the actual funeral...but a visitor at one point of the viewing, which many people would attend if they knew somebody. Just a thought...
#5 Peggi on 2007-05-24 12:02 (Reply)
Did anyone else see the Darhma beer bottle in Jack's sink right before he called Kate? Wasn't that a Darhma beer bottle? Must watch again!
#6 Joe on 2007-05-24 12:14 (Reply)
It seems more likely that the body in the casket was Locke. Jack wanting to go back to the island and seeing the note of Lockes death would certainly upset him, in light of how he tried to stop him from using Naomi's phone.
And the guy Kate was with is likely Sawyer. It seemed an obvious hint that Kate got pregnant, and ended up with Sawyer. Just a thought.
#6.1 Mike on 2007-05-24 13:39 (Reply)
I believe that the person in the casket is no other than Ben.

If Ben was right about the "real bad guys" being the people Jack contacted on the phone, and that everybody in the island will die, then that would explain why Jack ended up they way we see him in the future.

Think about it, Jack is set on getting everybody rescued and he even went as far as sacrificing three of his friends so the rest could be rescued. He gambles everything for some illusion. At the end as Ben and Lock predicted bad things happened. Ben probably gets taken with the survivors out of the island and he ends up dying because his tumor comes back.

There is no body at the funeral. Ben did not have any family or friends (off the island). Probably most or everybody of the Oceanic flight survivors did not care much about him.

But Jack knows. Like John he probably figured the island out but after or during the time of the rescue.
#7 Ace on 2007-05-24 13:21 (Reply)
Maybe Jack's father is alive after they leave the island. What if leaving the island was really not supposed to happen and by doing so, they have screwed up not only the future, but the past as well. Perhaps that's why Kate seems to be taking it so well . . . wouldn't she still be a fugitive? I'm not aware of any policy that expunges murder from a person's record just because they were in a plane accident. Maybe her alternate past is much better than Jack's.

As for the dead person in the casket. I suspect that we haven't yet met him. Not to make racial statements, but no detail in this show is capricious. As Jack got out of the car, there were only black men on the street. Also, the caretaker was black. That would suggest a black neightborhood, and therefore character. I thought at first it was Michael, but isn't he from NY? Perhaps he's the one that led the ship to the island?
#8 seamus on 2007-05-24 13:26 (Reply)
i think it may have been ben in the casket.
#9 Ugly Betty on 2007-05-24 13:51 (Reply)
I think it was Ben too!! He might of got caught up in what he said, "It's the beginning of the end" when they lead someone to the island. That could explain, why he wants to go back and why he was trying to jump of the bridge. He is the only one of the non-others that got close to Ben. And all the rest of the others died thus not at the funeral..Ben really messed with his head when he was at the camp and apprently he believes that Jack led them to the non-others demise. just a thought
#9.1 kein on 2007-05-24 14:29 (Reply)
Didn't the funeral director ask Jack "Friend or Family? Now I would take it to mean that the deceased is white?? or maybe not.. who knows??? It's got to be Locke in the casket....
#9.1.1 seamus (Homepage) on 2007-05-24 14:49 (Reply)
i think its ben because i dont see a reason why no one would show up at lockes funeral, and i think that beefs "desmond theory" is pretty good. in my opinion, sawyer is also out of the question.
#10 Beef on 2007-05-24 13:59 (Reply)
Here is my prediction. The season opens at the point this season ended. The way things are made right is that Desmond sees that something is wrong and attempts to alter the "timeline" by preventing the rescue along with Locke.
#11 adidas on 2007-05-24 16:38 (Reply)
in the casket is Juliet?
#12 dkrmwiz on 2007-05-24 18:52 (Reply)
talk about a cliff hanger! here i thought i was watching a flash back... and it was a flash forward! a real "what the frig!?" at the end there. can't wait until... what is it...january...february...? love this show, just when you think you've got it, it changes up!
#13 Amy on 2007-05-25 13:00 (Reply)
One more thing my husband pointed out...that Coffin..it was small...way too small to hold a normal sized adult. He said it looked to be 5 feet at most. But perhaps that was just the camera angle???
#13.1 seamus on 2007-05-25 15:53 (Reply)
cool point. i think it was the camera angle, but who knows? :-)
#14 Amy on 2007-05-25 15:56 (Reply)
Yeah I don't know...he said..look at it...If Jack spread out his arms he could touch both ends...Anyway it's a thought...
#15 kittyblue71 on 2007-05-25 16:47 (Reply)
the body in the casket is Walt
#16 Sean on 2007-05-25 17:54 (Reply)
Well my first thought was that it was Sawyer, but after reading the comments it would make sense if it were Locke, Walt, Ben (I think its a stretch) or Michael. I doubt is Ben because of the mood Jack's in, I think he'll be dead pretty soon. I was actually pretty happy to see Jack kick his ass.

I also think that Charlie's death was avoidable. It took about 30 seconds for the room to fill up with water, plus the couple seconds it took for the grenade to go off. Not only that, but the door opened into the chamber, so the force of the water would have helped him and Desmond to shut the door.

I have to wonder how Desmond didn't notice Mikhail coming back to life, putting on the scuba gear, and leaving the station. I mean it would really get my attention if a dead guy got up and started doing stuff.

I think there is something more to Mikhail then just luck. I 1st death (the fence) was explainable; I accepted that the fence was only on "stun" (sounds like Star Trek lol). But taking a harpoon to the chest...the is not something a normal person would survive. I bet we're going to seen him a again (alive, and still messing stuff up). I have to wonder if maybe The Island/Jacob is healing him, or if he's the Russian version of Chuck Norris.
#16.1 Chaos on 2007-05-28 11:15 (Reply)
As for Mikhails "Highlander" like regenerating abilaty, yes he has been put through enough to kill the average mortal, but do we know enough about "The Others" to dub them as average, or even mortal? One of the few things we have to refer to is Richard! When Richard and Ben met outside the DHARMA camp for the first time Ben was a young boy, yet today Richard does not look a day older??? Are there any elderly Others??? The Others are refered to as "natives" to the island by DHARMA folk. The seem to be; English, speaking, Caucasion, non-aging, invisible man following (harpoon resistant) natives? Does this strike anyone else as "Island Magic"?
#16.1.1 dkrmwiz on 2007-06-05 10:28 (Reply)
the whole non aging thing! i noticed that too! here we've got that richard guy with long hair, and i remembered him right off, and i was like "hey! that's the recruiter guy who talked to juliet and got her husband killed by that bus!". just loved that bus scene, btw!
#17 Sumi on 2007-05-27 22:05 (Reply)
Charlie had to die because he chose it. Lost is all about Fate vs. Will and I think Charlie died because of his strenght of will, where as he didn't die before, in his other fates. It made me really sad to see him go, but he kinda had to die.
...And Kate is definetely with Sawyer. Who else would she be with? And if Sawyer died, she would go to the funeral, where as Jack might not.
...as for who's in the casket- Jack said it wasn't his friend...
#18 Peru on 2007-07-22 00:08 (Reply)
Isn't it possible that Locke stayed on the island to lead the Others, thus replacing Ben (who had been corrupted and had lost credibility with the Others, plus he was tied up and was likely hauled off the island) as their leader? -- if anyone had a purpose in coming to the island, and quickly communed with it, it was Locke. It just seems like he was being groomed to take over, Jacob is seeking his help, and the Others look up to him.

And what about the other members of the flight? The ones that were kidnapped off the other beach and who Kate and Sawyer (or was it Jack? memory failing) saw when they were caged. They were likely not rescued.

My bet is Ben is in the casket.

And, as far as outstanding mysteries go, I still do not understand what killed the pilot of the plain in the first -- or was it the second -- episode of the Season 1. Nor why. Any thoughts?
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