Thursday, February 19. 2009
LOST: 316 [Spoiler filled analysis ahead!]
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This time its going to get a little deep. How could it not?
Desmond
The island's not done with you? He didn't get on the plane, so what part does he still have in all of this? Will he somehow come to terms with Hawking? Here's what I think: He's the one who eventually gets Faraday (and...?) off the island, or should I say out of the time they all end up in. The whole 'Constant' thing still has to come into play.
The Lamppost
Apart from being a lovely allusion to C.S. Lewis' lamp post which guided our Narnian heroes back through time into the wardrobe, the first thing that came to my mind was not a lamp post, but a lantern. Just like the one Jacob, I mean Christian, has been carting around, and keeps in his cabin window.
Bigger question is: Is Hawking formerly DHARMA or just another "Other" taking over the DHARMA's stuff once they've abandoned it, willingly or not? What gives?
Aaron
Does anyone even care to venture a guess as to what is going on here? Kate seemed very distraught that she would be leaving him behind, like she had no other choice. nobody? I will...
Ben's Old Friend
Is Charles Widmore, no doubt. Put a few events together, and here's what I think happened. Widmore got a hold of Kate and Aaron, Ben happens upon them in his quest for revenge, and a nasty fight ensues. Aaron is kidnapped by Widmore, Kate flees, and Ben barely makes it out alive.... Purely theoretical, but it would fit.
Claire
So, uh. Kate doesn't bring Aaron back to the island, just like Claire wanted. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I suspect it probably isn't good.
Sayid's Chaperone
If you saw the previews, you saw that she made it on the island. Why? What? Who is she?
The Other Guy
The middle-eastern looking dude that commented to Jack at the airport. I'm betting he's one of Widmore's stooges. Will he make it to the island or not? I'm betting yes, otherwise what was the point.
Hurley's Guitar Case
Yeah, so it's likely something Charlie told him to take with him. Dead Charlie, in one of Hurley's little conversations. But what's actually in there?
Ben and Frank and everyone else
Anyone want to guess that Ben didn't make it to the island? That the island doesn't want him back? And what of Frank? And everyone else on board?
The plane obviously didn't crash like last time, at least not that we were shown. So did our heroes just magically disappear from their seats? Or did it actually crash? Argh. Too many unknowns here....
Locke and Christian
Ah, but what's going to happen to Locke? Will he "become" Jacob like Christian has done? Will he take a spot at his side? Something else entirely? The Christ Allusion got carried to its fullest with the Doubting Thomas speech, so I'm wondering if he'll be completely brought back to life instead? Resurrected if you will? Have to wait til next week to find that out.
Jin and the Bus
Ah, then we come to the biggest WTF of them all. It would seem that the island brought the Oceanic Six back to the same time as the rest of our heroes, who found themselves trapped in the DHARMA era on the island. It makes sense, really. That would explain Faraday being Charlotte's father, how he got into that time frame, where we also saw him in the Orchid's construction.... But when exactly are we? In a pre-Ben world? Will Ben run into his former self, if indeed he has returned?
Just how far back are we? We can't be as far back as '54, like in the photo Hawking gave to Jack. Dharma hadn't arrived yet, and the van was newer than that. Wonder what Richard will have to say about all of this. Assuming he's aware of what's going on, that is.
316
Carrying the whole Christ/Locke analogy further, the flight number also has another meaning. -John- 3:16. Something about he who believes in me will have everlasting life or something. If you ever went to a single day of Sunday School in your life you know that. It would seem that Jack finally believes, then? After reading the "I wish you had believed me" note, they return? Coincidence? No. Not at all.
If Jack and Locke's paths cross again, I wonder what the conversation will entail....
I'm sure I'm missing a few things. Please bring them up if I am, it's been a busy morning and I'm rushing just to get this in!

Desmond
The island's not done with you? He didn't get on the plane, so what part does he still have in all of this? Will he somehow come to terms with Hawking? Here's what I think: He's the one who eventually gets Faraday (and...?) off the island, or should I say out of the time they all end up in. The whole 'Constant' thing still has to come into play.
The Lamppost
Apart from being a lovely allusion to C.S. Lewis' lamp post which guided our Narnian heroes back through time into the wardrobe, the first thing that came to my mind was not a lamp post, but a lantern. Just like the one Jacob, I mean Christian, has been carting around, and keeps in his cabin window.
Bigger question is: Is Hawking formerly DHARMA or just another "Other" taking over the DHARMA's stuff once they've abandoned it, willingly or not? What gives?
Aaron
Does anyone even care to venture a guess as to what is going on here? Kate seemed very distraught that she would be leaving him behind, like she had no other choice. nobody? I will...
Ben's Old Friend
Is Charles Widmore, no doubt. Put a few events together, and here's what I think happened. Widmore got a hold of Kate and Aaron, Ben happens upon them in his quest for revenge, and a nasty fight ensues. Aaron is kidnapped by Widmore, Kate flees, and Ben barely makes it out alive.... Purely theoretical, but it would fit.
Claire
So, uh. Kate doesn't bring Aaron back to the island, just like Claire wanted. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I suspect it probably isn't good.
Sayid's Chaperone
If you saw the previews, you saw that she made it on the island. Why? What? Who is she?
The Other Guy
The middle-eastern looking dude that commented to Jack at the airport. I'm betting he's one of Widmore's stooges. Will he make it to the island or not? I'm betting yes, otherwise what was the point.
Hurley's Guitar Case
Yeah, so it's likely something Charlie told him to take with him. Dead Charlie, in one of Hurley's little conversations. But what's actually in there?
Ben and Frank and everyone else
Anyone want to guess that Ben didn't make it to the island? That the island doesn't want him back? And what of Frank? And everyone else on board?
The plane obviously didn't crash like last time, at least not that we were shown. So did our heroes just magically disappear from their seats? Or did it actually crash? Argh. Too many unknowns here....
Locke and Christian
Ah, but what's going to happen to Locke? Will he "become" Jacob like Christian has done? Will he take a spot at his side? Something else entirely? The Christ Allusion got carried to its fullest with the Doubting Thomas speech, so I'm wondering if he'll be completely brought back to life instead? Resurrected if you will? Have to wait til next week to find that out.
Jin and the Bus
Ah, then we come to the biggest WTF of them all. It would seem that the island brought the Oceanic Six back to the same time as the rest of our heroes, who found themselves trapped in the DHARMA era on the island. It makes sense, really. That would explain Faraday being Charlotte's father, how he got into that time frame, where we also saw him in the Orchid's construction.... But when exactly are we? In a pre-Ben world? Will Ben run into his former self, if indeed he has returned?
Just how far back are we? We can't be as far back as '54, like in the photo Hawking gave to Jack. Dharma hadn't arrived yet, and the van was newer than that. Wonder what Richard will have to say about all of this. Assuming he's aware of what's going on, that is.
316
Carrying the whole Christ/Locke analogy further, the flight number also has another meaning. -John- 3:16. Something about he who believes in me will have everlasting life or something. If you ever went to a single day of Sunday School in your life you know that. It would seem that Jack finally believes, then? After reading the "I wish you had believed me" note, they return? Coincidence? No. Not at all.
If Jack and Locke's paths cross again, I wonder what the conversation will entail....
I'm sure I'm missing a few things. Please bring them up if I am, it's been a busy morning and I'm rushing just to get this in!

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The are clearly in the sixties era of the island, when the van was new. Could Jin be Mile's dad? I'm not sure that Daniel is Charlotte's father. She just said she remembered a crazy old man who told her to leave and NEVER come back.
If Charlotte were on the island as a kid, isn't it possible that she was Ben's friend when they were young (when he first came to the island and his dad was such a jerk)? or is Ben older than Charlotte? Seems like they probably knew each other in the before time.
Charlie had to be the one to tell Hurley to come back. He wouldn't have done it otherwise.
Neat analogy with the John 3:16 bit. I didn't go to Sunday school, so that is news to me.
What do you think?
Ben, in his quest to kill Penny finally runs into Desmond at the church. He leaves saying something like, "need to tie up some loose ends." and likely follows Desmond to his boat. Ben and Des fight a bit, maybe Ben knocks him unconscious or into the water then kills Penny like he promised to Widmore.
Kate feels guilty and gave Aaron to Claire's mom. What a coincidence she was in LA. Maybe Claire showed up again to tell her to do it.
The island stopped moving thru time when Locke turned the wheel, its stuck in the 1970's when Dharma was thriving.
Ben was reading Ulysses-another version of the Odysseus story...our hero spends many years trying to return home to his love-Penelope only to be thwarted along the way...much of his time is spent on a boat...sound familiar...lol...maybe Ben is catching up on some reading to get a glimpse into Desmond's next move.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever, believes in him, should not perish but have everlasting life.
You might be on to something here. THe preview alludes to john resurecting.
Any thoughts?
Not to say he won't come back somehow once he gets to the island. Maybe in a Christian Shepard way. Maybe the coffin Jack found in season 1 was NOT Christian's, but Locke's! OOOOoooooOOOHHHHhhhhHHH!
And regarding Daniel's 'test subject' Theresa...'Theresa falls up the stairs, Theresa falls down the stairs'(Boone)...maybe the same Theresa.
Any thoughts?
Also, I can accept Aaron not being needed on the plane because he wasn't born yet. But if you are trying to quasi-recreate the situation of the crash, why isn't Walt on board?
Did it seem to anyone else that Sayid in handcuffs with that woman was almost mirroring Kate with the US Marshall...
Sayid was most definitely the 'proxy' for the handcuffed Kate...