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Monday, May 18. 2009

LOST: The Incident

Well, I finally got a chance to sit down and watch the whole thing front to back, instead of with 45 minutes of weather coverage smack in the middle...

...and I'm sitting here scratching my head going, "WTF?"  I mean, WTF?

And yes, there are spoilers ahead, if you haven't guessed by now....

Jacob

Yeah, so Jacob is this guy living in the base of the statue. (long pause)  Apparently he's been there since at least the Black Rock days, and there's another guy(?) there who wants to kill him, but is bound by some rule or another saying he can't.  Oi.

So, obviously this other guy is meant to be, if not directly, at least a metaphor for the Devil, Satan, Beezlebubba, whatever.  That much is clear by the way he manipulates Ben into doing his dirty work, and hence, finding his loophole.

But what of Jacob?  I'll have to do a little more pondering on this one, to be honest.  But lets look at where else we see Jacob in the episode, namely when he shows up to each of the returning five, plus old JL, and somebody else....

Jacob + Kate

Young (maybe 10?) Kate steals a lunchbox from the store.  Jacob steps in and pays for it.  "No harm done. You're not going to steal anymore, are you, Katie?" She answers no, and he goes on his way.

Jacob + Sawyer

Again, a young Sawyer is found writing the infamous letter to the real "Sawyer" when his pen runs dry.  Jacob appears and provides him with another pen, and some words of consolation.  And thats about it.

Jacob + Sayid

Sayid and Nadia in the city, walking to someplace or another.  As they step out into the street, Jacob stops Sayid asking for help, leaving Nadia out in the road as Sayid goes back to the corner.  Just then a car (looked like two cars were involved actually, the one who hit her, and another that sped away) hits Nadia, and she dies.  Not before telling Sayid, "Take me home."

This one is curious to me.  Did Jacob do this to save Sayid from being run over? Or to facilitate Nadia's death? Both or neither?

Jacob + Alana

Now, not part of the equation until now, but here it is nonetheless.  She's lying in a bed, covered in bandages.  She opens her eye to find Jacob.  They speak in a foreign language (Russian? Some other Eastern European tongue?)  "I'm here because I need your help.  Can you do that?" She nods.

So she has dealt with him before?  It would seem so.

Jacob + Locke

Jacob is sitting on a bench reading "Everything that rises must converge" (significance unknown to me right now, but I'm sure somebody has already covered it).  Locke suddenly falls from his fathers office window to the ground.  Jacob walks over to him, wakes him up (brings him back to life?) and says "I'm sorry this happened to you" and walks away.

Jacob + Sun

At Sun and Jin's wedding,  Jacob appears in "the line" and offers him blessings in "excellent" Korean.  "Love is a very special thing, never take it for granted."  And he walks away.

Jacob + Jack

At Jack's first solo surgery, Christian corrects him and embarasses him in front of the team.  After getting ripped off by the vending machine, Jack calls him on it.  Christian basically tells Jack that he needs to believe in himself.  We hear the vending machine again, and Jacob gives Jack his Apollo bar.  "I guess it just needed a little push."

Jacob + Hurley

Hurley gets out of jail after the incident(!) at his house.  Outside in the cab is Jacob, and a guitar case.  He tells Hurley that he isn't cursed, but blessed, and that he isn't crazy.  He tells Hurley about the flight, and that he has a choice.  Jacob gets out of the cab and leaves the guitar.  "It's not mine."

So what is to be made of all this?

Jacob isn't bound to the island, per se, that much is clear.  The fact that he is there at each of these times and locations is evidence enough.  But the big question is....

Have we really been dealing with Jacob the whole time or the "other" dude?  By the way Alana reacts at the cabin, I think that the Christian Shepard apparition is not Jacob at all, but this other fellow, trying to weasel things to his own devices.  Ditto the Walt vision, Locke's father, all of it.  Including Claire.

If Richard is to be believed, Jacob simply allows things to unfold as they must, dropping advice and lending a slight hand where its required, but never really interfering in any concrete way.

It seems clear that most of the above encounters in one way or another facilitate later events on the island.  John's fall, Sawyer's letter, Jack's needing a push into leadership, Sayid joining forces with Ben, Hurley's mission to bring back the guitar case....  But Kate's encounter is a little less clear to me.....  It's clear that Jacob does want them back.  And we find out why.

"What about you?"

The bit with Ben is particularly telling.  It puts Ben and (the real) Locke on an even keel.  Neither have lead particularly special lives it would seem.  Ben has been (possibly) a disappointment to Jacob, and therefore Jacob just waited until his time was up as "the leader."

But what about the other "leaders?" like Eloise and Widmore?  Did they have a better connection to Jacob and therefore have a better insight than we know?  Too much reaching at this point.

"They're coming"

Right before evil-fake-Locke kicks Jacob into the fire, Jacob tells him, "They're coming."  We can only assume he means the Oceanic Five+2.  But to what end?

Or as he tells his pal at the beginning, "It only ends once, everything else is just progress."

Rose and Bernard

So the real question is... are these two the "skeletons in the cave?"  I'm going to wager "yes" on that one.  They've been warned that everyone might die, so maybe they go off to the cave to spend their final moments together? 

Jughead

Yeah there was other stuff going on, namely the usual Jack/Sawyer bickering over the women, Jack trying to take charge, Sawyer trying to hang on to what he's got and making the best of it.

Kind of a bummer that the episode ends on such a cliff hanger.  Usually there's some kind of morsel to be munched upon until NEXT YEAR!!! (sigh) but not so this time.  A big white flash and a "bonk" and thats it.

Obviously there is a lot I've left out, but the Jacob business is the real focus.  The significance of the Egyptian god, Richard's (Ricardus?) apparent Latin origins, just who is Alana working for, what's up with Rose and Bernard.... make a list.

I'm not really sure what to make of the new direction we're going in, either.  Either its going to be a very surreal and philosophical final season or I'm going to be sorely disappointed! :-D






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#1 Seana on 2009-05-20 11:40 (Reply)
I was thinking that when they yelled "they're coming" that they were talking about Alana and her group, who were going to expose the fake Locke and try to save Jacab. If the bad guy is Satan, does that make Jacob Jesus, or Jehovah, or someone else?
#2 Chris (Homepage) on 2009-05-20 11:55 (Reply)
yeah I thought about that, but the timing between that scene and then the (assumed) bomb going off was just too close together. Maybe he means both?
#3 angela on 2009-05-20 13:32 (Reply)
I am a little skeptical about the obvious Jacob/white shirt and MysteryMan/black shirt dichotomy...it was told to us by both Hurley and Lapidus, each in their own words-in my experience, the guys who say they are the good guys, usually aren't. And that makes me wonder about Jacob...after all, he and the mystery each have their own argument/agenda to prove as being correct...each of them have manipulated people to further their own perspective and make their point. Each has moved people around like pieces on a chess board-or maybe a backgammon board...each has used questionable means and each has questionable motives. so, does the end justify the means? Both have allowed people to die, or to be 'sacrificed' for their 'bigger picture'...I guess I'm really wondering who is the good guy and who is really the bad guy when their methods are somewhat similar...and as for motive-each wants to come out ahead of the other, a clear 'winner'...one is more obvious, while the other is more subtle-but both have pushed their own agenda...can it really be said that one is any better than the other?
#4 angela on 2009-05-20 13:39 (Reply)
I found it very interesting that Jacob actually physically 'touched' each of our 'Losties' when he visited them. And he gave each of them something-whether something tangible or his words-it was something specifically for that person. As for Kate, and her lunchbox-that lunchbox was the same one she and childhood sweetheart Tom (who was later killed when he was shot by police who were after Kate) buried as their 'time capsule'...it had Tom's plane in it...later Kate would leave this plane behind and it would be taken by the same man who was escorting her to the island on flight 815...it was this toy plane of Tom's that prompted Kate to plan a robbery at the bank so that she could retrieve the plane from a safety deposit box. 'You're not going to steal anymore Katie, are you?'....Jacob sees very far indeed.
#5 MangaKhan on 2009-05-22 08:32 (Reply)
I'm wondering about the Jacob touching also. Was it only those whom we saw him touch that he touched. Did he only want those few on the island and did not touch, and therefore want, any of the others on The Island? What about Boone, Shannon, Charlie, and the other crash survivors? Were they just there by accident and not connected to Jacob and The Island? Were they just as insignificant as those who died in the crash? Was Frogurt's presence on The Island just as significant as Mr. Echo's?
#6 angela on 2009-05-22 15:05 (Reply)
MangaKhan-very good questions/observations. That he me wondering further on the along the path which you bring us to: those whom we saw Jacob touch would each later go down extremely dark paths in their lives. Jack's obsession with 'fixing' things led him to a confrontation where we saw him put a gun to Locke's head and actually PULL the trigger! (my jaw hit my lap on that one...) as for Kate-her path has led to murder and a bank heist; Sayid became a torturer and an assasin; Hurley believing himself to be cursed winds up in a mental institution; Jin-working for a mobster basically; and Sun-having an affair-these 2 breaking the heart of the person they love the most in the process. So, what I am wondering now is, did Jacob touching them somehow play a part in the paths their lives took? But if so, then Hurley seems to be unaffected...if anything Hurley has always seemed to be the moral center of the show...Like you am wondering why these were seemingly 'chosen' and 'set apart'....and what of Claire-we did not see her 'touched' but she has been 'taken' and is still, whether dead or alive, somewhere on the island.
#7 angela on 2009-05-24 16:17 (Reply)
on Locke...just found this and thought you might like to know what Mr. Terry O'Quinn recently said about the fate of his character-John Locke...http://lost-media.com/2009/05/18/terry-oquinn-interview-about-locke/....just copy and paste into your browser.
#8 angela on 2009-06-11 19:15 (Reply)
check out: www.lostseason6.com

interviews with cast and crew; mild spoilers for season 6.
#9 angela on 2009-06-11 20:03 (Reply)
taking it from the top: jacob and our MM-mystery man...these 2 are bound by strict rules, but i think that putting them in the 'box' of good and evil might be over-simplifying just a bit..after all, from the very beginning-showing Locke and Walt (age and youth) playing backgammon (light and dark) our show has been more about Duality than any real moral code.
Jacob/Kate: by paying for Kate's 'sin' Jacob did not really do her any favors-she learned very early on that she could just take what she wanted and not have any consequences for her actions. Her mother was not called and the police did not come-she never got into trouble nor was she punished for stealing. Jacob sort of helped along her mindset right at that moment-sort of 'locked' (excuse the pun) it into her personality by touching her on the nose. He did the same with our other Losties too-appearing at those very moments to touch them and make what they were feeling a big part of who they would each turn out to be. Sayid and his deep grief/loss would turn to rage to be used by Ben; Jack and his daddy issues/self-doubt/and yes, even his arrogance-these things drive him to be a leader and save others when he can. Sun and Jin-deeply impressed was their love/devotion to each other:each would do whatever they had to in order to return to the other and be together. Sawyer, by giving him that pen-he allowed the this little boy to hold onto his loss/grief/anger in the form of a letter-(which he read and re-lived) for decades. Sawyer, much like Sayid-had been a loaded gun for a long time, waiting to go off. as for Hurley, re-assurance which leads to his peace of mind and furthers his confidence. and then there's Locke-Jacob (imo) has known for some time what the MM was up to and how Locke would figure in...Jacob resurrected Locke with a touch-at the most emotionally and physically (gut-wrenchingly) painful moment in this man's sad life: and with a touch seared this onto Locke's psyche.

now for the black ash around the cabin: the cabin was Jacob's at one time-Ilana confirmed this: i believe that the black ash was a barrier which maybe somehow 'sanctified' (for lack of a better word) this spot to keep out MM; with that barrier broken/desecrated, MM has used the cabin at will and to his advantage. MM/Locke 2.0 could not enter Jacob's home under the statue without Ben-as we know, with the real Locke-in-a-box, that meant that Ben was still the de-facto leader: and MM could only get into Jacob's home with a willing leader giving him access.

Jack/Sawyer/Kate: the writers/producers have confirmed early on that Jack is our hero. Now that he and Kate are no more, and Sawyer and Juliet are no more-expect to see Jack and Sawyer make friends. They've had their long awaited knock-down/drag-out fight scene. Jack will sympathize with Sawyer in his grief. Kate will see that Sawyer is capable of having a grown up relationship. Kate is going back to Sawyer and our hero Jack? Well, we all know that the hero is that lone figure struggling to make all right with the world. And because of his great 'destiny' Jack will step aside because he wants Kate to be happy-even if that means letting her go and being happy with someone else.

Rose and Bernard: they ARE the progress to which Jacob refers..."we just want to be with each other" and "this is what we've made for ourselves"...i love the fact that Rose can not believe the others are still looking for ways to 'blow each other up'...LOL! i think that you have it right- Adam and Eve all the way!

Are all of those visions/encounters of dead/missing people really our MM? I think so...the ultimate mind frakk!!! And if so, that means that MM is not 'tied' to the island...having shown up as Christian to Jack in his office; "you're not supposed to raise him Jack: a warning about being a father to Aaron...or maybe a warning about 'raising' John Locke...hmmmm...
as Claire to Kate in her home-which brings me to one thing? When Claire said "don't you dare bring him back"...again-meaning Aaron, or Locke?
and then there's our favorite rock star/heroine addict Charlie Pace, aka Charlie Hieronymus Pace (anagram for Hume's Irony-as in Desmond Hume) and Mr. Eko who both appeared to Hurley...all this is MM? appearing to our Losties off the island in order to drive them mad/break the down so that they would not return? Sounds plausible.

I LOVE this show!!!
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