Planet LOST - Comments

TBabb: LA X

nospam@example.com (TBabb) — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:22:20 -0600

Yeah, the people at the temple are definitely just a continuation of the others. They know about the "first" plane crash (what's the second????), and the flight attendant is with them, and she was with the others in season three when jack was captured by them. I think her name is Cindy.

Seana: LA X

nospam@example.com (Seana) — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:49:43 -0600

Christian's body wasn't on the plane because it never got off the island. They don't know where he is because Jacob has him.

Rich: LA X

nospam@example.com (Rich) — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:03:15 -0600

Desmond on the plane seems possible. If "it worked," then there would be no button for him to push for 3 years or not push to make the plane crash.

As for the island being underwater, it's possible that the pocket of magnetism may have imploded on itself causing a vacuum which allows for the island to sink. There's probably a way to prove it scientifically, but I'm not a physicist.

Not sure this splitting timeline thingy was done at the right time for the series. I think it just creates more questions to answer, and they're going to answer them all in the next 15-16 weeks?

PlanetLOST: LA X

nospam@example.com (PlanetLOST) — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:36:09 -0600

AAHHHH, did a little digging and it would seem that the big temple has been there the whole time, thanks for the heads up. One of those things we weren't ever shown, but hinted at only a couple of times.

I can't recall off hand if Jin actually saw the big structure when he was on top of the wall or not....

I'll edit that part to point down here for a bit of clarification.

PlanetLOST: LA X

nospam@example.com (PlanetLOST) — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:59:54 -0600

Well, yeah, the old part with the hole we've seen before. I was talking about the new temple. At least it looked new-ish. Please tell me I didn't miss something in an earlier episode!

TBabb: LA X

nospam@example.com (TBabb) — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:48:36 -0600

The temple has been there for a long time. Realize that the hole in the wall was there for a long time. Jin and the Frenchies went through, it's just that nobody had ever gotten far enough through the whole in the wall to actually get to the temple.
Remember in season 4 when Widmore's boat came to the island and Ben was scared for Alex so he told her and Rousseau to go to the temple? That's where his people were and that's where they could be safe.

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:03:12 -0500

taking it from the top: jacob and our MM-mystery man...these 2 are bound by strict rules, but i think that putting them in the 'box' of good and evil might be over-simplifying just a bit..after all, from the very beginning-showing Locke and Walt (age and youth) playing backgammon (light and dark) our show has been more about Duality than any real moral code.
Jacob/Kate: by paying for Kate's 'sin' Jacob did not really do her any favors-she learned very early on that she could just take what she wanted and not have any consequences for her actions. Her mother was not called and the police did not come-she never got into trouble nor was she punished for stealing. Jacob sort of helped along her mindset right at that moment-sort of 'locked' (excuse the pun) it into her personality by touching her on the nose. He did the same with our other Losties too-appearing at those very moments to touch them and make what they were feeling a big part of who they would each turn out to be. Sayid and his deep grief/loss would turn to rage to be used by Ben; Jack and his daddy issues/self-doubt/and yes, even his arrogance-these things drive him to be a leader and save others when he can. Sun and Jin-deeply impressed was their love/devotion to each other:each would do whatever they had to in order to return to the other and be together. Sawyer, by giving him that pen-he allowed the this little boy to hold onto his loss/grief/anger in the form of a letter-(which he read and re-lived) for decades. Sawyer, much like Sayid-had been a loaded gun for a long time, waiting to go off. as for Hurley, re-assurance which leads to his peace of mind and furthers his confidence. and then there's Locke-Jacob (imo) has known for some time what the MM was up to and how Locke would figure in...Jacob resurrected Locke with a touch-at the most emotionally and physically (gut-wrenchingly) painful moment in this man's sad life: and with a touch seared this onto Locke's psyche.

now for the black ash around the cabin: the cabin was Jacob's at one time-Ilana confirmed this: i believe that the black ash was a barrier which maybe somehow 'sanctified' (for lack of a better word) this spot to keep out MM; with that barrier broken/desecrated, MM has used the cabin at will and to his advantage. MM/Locke 2.0 could not enter Jacob's home under the statue without Ben-as we know, with the real Locke-in-a-box, that meant that Ben was still the de-facto leader: and MM could only get into Jacob's home with a willing leader giving him access.

Jack/Sawyer/Kate: the writers/producers have confirmed early on that Jack is our hero. Now that he and Kate are no more, and Sawyer and Juliet are no more-expect to see Jack and Sawyer make friends. They've had their long awaited knock-down/drag-out fight scene. Jack will sympathize with Sawyer in his grief. Kate will see that Sawyer is capable of having a grown up relationship. Kate is going back to Sawyer and our hero Jack? Well, we all know that the hero is that lone figure struggling to make all right with the world. And because of his great 'destiny' Jack will step aside because he wants Kate to be happy-even if that means letting her go and being happy with someone else.

Rose and Bernard: they ARE the progress to which Jacob refers..."we just want to be with each other" and "this is what we've made for ourselves"...i love the fact that Rose can not believe the others are still looking for ways to 'blow each other up'...LOL! i think that you have it right- Adam and Eve all the way!

Are all of those visions/encounters of dead/missing people really our MM? I think so...the ultimate mind frakk!!! And if so, that means that MM is not 'tied' to the island...having shown up as Christian to Jack in his office; "you're not supposed to raise him Jack: a warning about being a father to Aaron...or maybe a warning about 'raising' John Locke...hmmmm...
as Claire to Kate in her home-which brings me to one thing? When Claire said "don't you dare bring him back"...again-meaning Aaron, or Locke?
and then there's our favorite rock star/heroine addict Charlie Pace, aka Charlie Hieronymus Pace (anagram for Hume's Irony-as in Desmond Hume) and Mr. Eko who both appeared to Hurley...all this is MM? appearing to our Losties off the island in order to drive them mad/break the down so that they would not return? Sounds plausible.

I LOVE this show!!!

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:15:39 -0500

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interviews with cast and crew; mild spoilers for season 6.

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Sun, 24 May 2009 16:17:51 -0500

on Locke...just found this and thought you might like to know what Mr. Terry O'Quinn recently said about the fate of his character-John Locke...http://lost-media.com/2009/05/18/terry-oquinn-interview-about-locke/....just copy and paste into your browser.

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:05:42 -0500

MangaKhan-very good questions/observations. That he me wondering further on the along the path which you bring us to: those whom we saw Jacob touch would each later go down extremely dark paths in their lives. Jack's obsession with 'fixing' things led him to a confrontation where we saw him put a gun to Locke's head and actually PULL the trigger! (my jaw hit my lap on that one...) as for Kate-her path has led to murder and a bank heist; Sayid became a torturer and an assasin; Hurley believing himself to be cursed winds up in a mental institution; Jin-working for a mobster basically; and Sun-having an affair-these 2 breaking the heart of the person they love the most in the process. So, what I am wondering now is, did Jacob touching them somehow play a part in the paths their lives took? But if so, then Hurley seems to be unaffected...if anything Hurley has always seemed to be the moral center of the show...Like you am wondering why these were seemingly 'chosen' and 'set apart'....and what of Claire-we did not see her 'touched' but she has been 'taken' and is still, whether dead or alive, somewhere on the island.

MangaKhan: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (MangaKhan) — Fri, 22 May 2009 08:32:57 -0500

I'm wondering about the Jacob touching also. Was it only those whom we saw him touch that he touched. Did he only want those few on the island and did not touch, and therefore want, any of the others on The Island? What about Boone, Shannon, Charlie, and the other crash survivors? Were they just there by accident and not connected to Jacob and The Island? Were they just as insignificant as those who died in the crash? Was Frogurt's presence on The Island just as significant as Mr. Echo's?

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Wed, 20 May 2009 13:39:35 -0500

I found it very interesting that Jacob actually physically 'touched' each of our 'Losties' when he visited them. And he gave each of them something-whether something tangible or his words-it was something specifically for that person. As for Kate, and her lunchbox-that lunchbox was the same one she and childhood sweetheart Tom (who was later killed when he was shot by police who were after Kate) buried as their 'time capsule'...it had Tom's plane in it...later Kate would leave this plane behind and it would be taken by the same man who was escorting her to the island on flight 815...it was this toy plane of Tom's that prompted Kate to plan a robbery at the bank so that she could retrieve the plane from a safety deposit box. 'You're not going to steal anymore Katie, are you?'....Jacob sees very far indeed.

angela: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (angela) — Wed, 20 May 2009 13:32:03 -0500

I am a little skeptical about the obvious Jacob/white shirt and MysteryMan/black shirt dichotomy...it was told to us by both Hurley and Lapidus, each in their own words-in my experience, the guys who say they are the good guys, usually aren't. And that makes me wonder about Jacob...after all, he and the mystery each have their own argument/agenda to prove as being correct...each of them have manipulated people to further their own perspective and make their point. Each has moved people around like pieces on a chess board-or maybe a backgammon board...each has used questionable means and each has questionable motives. so, does the end justify the means? Both have allowed people to die, or to be 'sacrificed' for their 'bigger picture'...I guess I'm really wondering who is the good guy and who is really the bad guy when their methods are somewhat similar...and as for motive-each wants to come out ahead of the other, a clear 'winner'...one is more obvious, while the other is more subtle-but both have pushed their own agenda...can it really be said that one is any better than the other?

Chris: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (Chris) — Wed, 20 May 2009 11:55:25 -0500

yeah I thought about that, but the timing between that scene and then the (assumed) bomb going off was just too close together. Maybe he means both?

Seana: LOST: The Incident

nospam@example.com (Seana) — Wed, 20 May 2009 11:40:19 -0500

I was thinking that when they yelled "they're coming" that they were talking about Alana and her group, who were going to expose the fake Locke and try to save Jacab. If the bad guy is Satan, does that make Jacob Jesus, or Jehovah, or someone else?

Rich: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Rich) — Tue, 19 May 2009 05:43:59 -0500

In a previous episode this season, Widmore was forced off the island because he had a child with someone off island with another woman that was not an Other. At the end of this episode, it was revealed that Widmore was Daniel's father. So that makes Penny and Dan half-siblings. In one of the last two episodes, it is revealed that Eloise is pregnant, presumably with Dan.

angela: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (angela) — Sat, 02 May 2009 16:57:01 -0500

I love the theory that Charlie Hume is actually Charlie Pace...Charles Hieronymus Pace-Hieronymus is an acronym for "Hume's Irony"...love it! Young Charlie Hume gets left by mum in the hospital waiting room with Widmore just outside the hospital-after his speech about 'sacrificing his relationship with his daughter'...not such a big stretch that he would grab the kid-and we know that he has the connections to get to the island-he could totally arrange to have the kid taken back in time AND he has enough money to orchestrate EXACTLY who, when, and where the kid is adopted. Why hide Charlie with regular working class people-who would ever think to look for the grandson of a magnate in 'Simon's Butcher Shop'-which is by the by the same name used for the butcher shop that stored Locke body. I love this theory and hope that it holds up! I like the family connection as well-Daniel Faraday was shown playing piano on the Variable...fans know how Charlie felt about the piano his mother gave him and how he also played.

angela: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (angela) — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:52:39 -0500

Some of Daniel's last words to Eloise were-'you knew this was going to happen and you sent me back anyway'...by going back to the island, Daniel has set into motion the series of events that he wanted to change. Eloise and Widmore knew this would be the case-and they sent their son to his death.

Chris: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Chris) — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:14:03 -0500

err, another slip by yours truly. You're right, there's no evidence that Penny is Eloise's. But, Widmore was there, and he might have something up his sleeve....

Chris: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Chris) — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:12:39 -0500

...I was under the impression that this 'fondess' for Charlotte was something related to his having met her before. And when she told him of the 'strange little man' it was pretty clear that he knew it was him, even though he (in his present) hadn't been there yet.... Or am I getting confused about something (which is likely!)

Seana: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Seana) — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:02:39 -0500

Although 1977 is Daniel's "present", it doesn't negate the life experiences he had up to that point, including having grown up, gotten the grant, travelled to the island with Charlotte, etc, which is where he would have developed the fondness for her, which is why he tried to prevent her coming back to the island, because he knew she would die. His "present" just means that he's not jumping through time anymore, he (they) are stuck in 1977 unless they can do something to change it.

anonymousalso: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (anonymousalso) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:37:26 -0500

Who is Penelope's mom? In the notes it says "Eloise and Charles grandson," but we don't know that it is Eloise's do we?
Also, what happend to "the war" that Widmore sd. was coming to John? And Maybe Faraday is wrong and Eloise did mean to send Jack there so he could stop the "accident" since she knew she was going to kill Daniel.

Hugonaut: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Hugonaut) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:57:52 -0500

This whole button pushing thing is kind of freaky. While there are many effects resulting from pushing/not pushing the button, let's see what this says in relation to airplanes. The statement that Desmond failing to push the button once caused the crash of Oceanic 815 should mean then that once the button was being pushed again that there would be no more crashes, and this is when Desmond started to push again and then Locke. Further, what element of chance chose exactly the moment that 815 was in the circle of influence that Desmond would miss his duty that he fulfilled faithfully for a very long period of time. When the button pushing stopped, the whole thing blew up and there were never to be any buttons pushed again. If we follow the logic, this either disabled the plane crashing effect of the island or meant that every plane that passed within a certain circle of influence should crash. Why, then, is it only the plane that has the Losties on it coming back that is impacted? There should have either been no impact, or there should have been a veritable graveyard of airplanes. No, I think Daniel is wrong, and that the Losties, at least the six, have some kind of eternal purpose in the history of the island, and they were destined to crash there the first time, and to return the second. Daniel is wrong, and now he is dead.

Chris: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Chris) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:05:17 -0500

He failed to push it -once- which just happened to be the event that brought the plane down. He kept on pressing it until he was found by Locke....

Kevin: LOST: The Variable

nospam@example.com (Kevin) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:02:21 -0500

Can someone refresh my memory... Faraday tells Jack that Desmond will stop pushing the button one day and THAT causes his plane to crash. BUT wasn't Desmond pushing the button after the losties got to island. Or did I misunderstand something in Desmond's timeline?